Saturday, March 15, 2008

Obama's Pastor: God Damn America, US To Blame for 9-11

Interestingly enough Obama fired this man today and has been going to this church for 20 years.....and NOW he is distancing himself from reverend Wright who is his spiritual advisor???? Transcending race?? I used to think so? Now, I don't think so. It is an act....His "old uncle" that he doesn't agree with held an advisory job in Barack's campaign until this started circulating....I think it is inflammatory and indicative of the Senator....

12 comments:

ba and the boys said...

how about this...i have been seeing it on the news all day and i am so amazed that people there while this man is spewing off death to america and CLAPPING! if someone talked about my country this way, id be leaving! very creepy!
good work in picking a winner obama!

Akinogal said...
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Nikki said...

BA.....I know I am with you, it is a bit strange for sure, I have a hard enough time in testimony meetings haha!!! :)N

Mike said...

Hey, Nikki. I'm not surprised that Obama fired the preacher guy. That's what politicians do. Someone makes a comment that created controversy, they get canned. Just ask Geraldine Ferraro.

As for the reverend's comments about 9/11, I don't think it's so radical to say that the events of that day didn't happen in a vacuum. The US has done a lot of unpleasant things over the years, and it was only a matter of time until some of them came back and bit us in the rear end. I don't think that the rev was suggesting that we deserved to be attacked, or that all those people deserved to die. I think his point is that what goes around comes around.

As for the other radical statements, I think it's unfair to show a few clips out of context and suggest that the guy is a nut. When he said "US KKK of A" what was he talking about? Senator Lott? Senator Byrd? The disenfranchisement of blacks in Florida in 2000? Who can say? The program didn't make it clear. It was a good sound bite, though, and that's what matters most to the conservative media.

DB said...

Wow Nikki, you presented another Political Paradox (I am copy righting that). Second time this week!

So, we have a radical religious guy making crazed statements who is in the pocket of a presidential candidate and people on the other side of the line are calling foul. Since the tables of irony have turned, how should the right respond without becoming hypocrites? How should the left respond without being hypocrites?

Rock. Hard place. You get the point.

Nikki said...

Hey Mike.....I would think that most Americans would like a Presidential candidate that at least "likes" America......radical preachers do have every right to spew from their pulpits and Americans have every right to question a member of their congregation who is running for President, I believe Mitt Romney was questioned about his strange religious beliefs. And of course conservatives are going to hop on this....that's politics!!! And there are more clips where those came from.....he has better ones than that I just chose the one that didn't come from Fox.......thanks for taking a break from writing to chime in..it's appreciated!!! :)N
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DB.....a paradox indeed and like I said to Mike,hypocritical it may be but jumping on info like this is oh so gonna happen! no blogs without it and as a religious person whose religion has been through the muddy microscope itself I still plan on hypocritically harping on this for a few days.....whatever ammo I can use against Obama yes I am going to use it......especially when the ammo is from a religious zealot from the other side. priceless!!!
:)N

namaste said...

i definitely don't listen to crazy people like this reverend. i'm sure obama is properly mortified and running like hell to distance himself from the looney!

great find, nikki!

:) ~m

Nikki said...

Hey Namaste......he is crazy and I suppose I would have this same problem if I were to run for President, my blog would be held against me in sooooo many ways!! So I guess my role as agitator stands!!! thanks for poppin' over!!! :)N

Anthony Palmer said...

Jerry Falwell blamed 9-11 on the United States' being a nation of sinfulness and said the attacks were a punishment for homosexuals. And Bush continued to take his campaign money. And McCain cozied up to him later on and is taking his money too. (Or at least the money from those at his church and university now that he's dead.)

The point of why I say this is not to bash Obama or Bush or the GOP, but rather to say that this is a good reason why religion and politics don't mix.

How do you make the transformation from Obama's minister making inflammatory remarks to Obama not liking America? That's a bit of a leap, isn't it? I encourage you to read Mike's comment carefully. I've actually lived abroad (Japan and Germany) and heard this sentiment A LOT. I even had Japanese people come up to me and say that as bad as 9-11 was, that was not nearly as bad as what the US did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki in WWII.

Nobody's blaming America, but for every action, there's going to be a reaction. It's true in physics, and it's true in politics too. In light of our ongoing military campaign in Iraq, it seems that we are now traveling down that exact same path.

Nikki said...

Anthony, I do find it interesting that conservatives should stay away from this sort of thing because of hypocracy....the leap is not that far from Reverend Wright to Obama because he has been a congragate in the church for 20 years and has donated money and his children have been baptised and he and his wife have been married in this church.....my problem is with him suddenly disavowing it at such a convenient time......why should this not be played to his credibility?? Religion and politics don't mix and the reverend should stick to sermons and leave the politics to others. I am sure the left had plenty to say about the campaign contributions of rich evangelicals to Bush and others, this is not the case in this situation, this is his personal spiritual leader in which he named his book after a quote from this guy, I hardly think that is dismissible as a distant contributor....Also I am not so sure the point is to discuss the ramifications of 9/11 and past wrongs by the U.S.....the point is that the Reverend may in fact influence or share the same views as the candidate be it that he frequents this place of worship and some Americans such as myself find that reprehinsible.....let's not lessen 9/11 by demoting ourselves to terrorists, I don't buy that line of thinking......thanks for chiming in at such a late hour....:)N

Anthony Palmer said...

Nikki,

Let me ask you something. Have you ever lived abroad? I'm not talking about visiting a country for two weeks, but rather actually living in another country and interacting with the locals there.

Nikki said...

Anthony I lived in Israel for 6 months when I was 19 years old, if that counts. I lived on a Kibbutz for 5 of those months and lived as a jewish kibbutznik....